Just added the Celts to the History School - Right now we also have Egypt, Babylon, Persia and Media. Check it out: http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread...History-School.
A Native American Peoples (such as the Sioux)
A Post-Colonial Power (such as Brazil or New Zealand)
A Mesopotamian Civ (such as the Sumer or the Hittites)
A Southeast Asian Civ (such as the Majapahit or Indonesia)
The Zulu or the Kongo
Awesome post, Shiav!
I really want someone like the Hittites or Assyrians. They'd be really fun to play as.
Alright people, now that the Huns are in the game, I see absolutely no reason why the Sioux shouldn't. The Sioux have always had a special play in my heart, and they were quite impressive too! We need to really push for the Sioux now...
Here's what we've got in the 50+ Civilization Civ 5 thread:
Capital: Sioux Falls
Leader: Red Cloud (1822 - 1909)
UA: Buffalo Dance. Cattle, Deer, and Sheep provide +1 productivity and +1 food.
UU: Dog Soldier. Replaces Pikeman. Starts with Open Terrain 3 (only if there is a Totem pole in the city) and Drill 1. Strength 12, not 10. Cost 130, not 100.
UB: Totem Pole. Replaces Monument. +1 culture, not 2. Cost 70, not 60. Maintenance 1. ranged units (including sea and air) receive two Promotions.
(Land - Open Terrain 1 & 2, Sea - Targeting 1 & 2, Air - Siege 1 & 2)
Leader: Sitting Bull (1831 - 1890)
UU: Deerfoot. Replaces Archer. Strength: 5. Ranged Strength: 7. Range: 2. Movement: 2 (+1 in Open Terrain.). Note: This unique Sioux Archery unit gets +1 in Combat and Ranged Combat strength. Additionally +1 movement in the Open Terrain only.
UU: Raider. Replaces Lancer. Combat: 24. Movement: 5. Starts with Evasion(50) promotion. Has a higher combat strength and extra movement point.
UA: The Hunter's Way. All Cattle and Sheep worked by a City provide +1 Food, all Horses provide +1 Gold, and all Deer provide +1 Production.
- I'd like to discuss this, because is this what we all want? How could this improved upon to make the Sioux more appealing, and to give them a more unique game play style?
I'd like to make them a horse culture civ, because as soon as horses become available to them they really found a place for them in their hearts. It's so clear that if horses were in the Americas before Europeans (not talking about extinct ones here), then they would've been a horse culture from the start. The Sioux in fact thank the Europeans for bringing the horses to America!
Anyway, that's my opinion...What's yours?
Aren't there enough Horse centered civilizations though? Don't get me wrong I agree 100% but we have the Mongols who revolve around horsemen, the Huns will no doubt, the Greeks best unit is companion cavalry, Songhai's UU is cavalry, Russia's UU and their ability both have to do with cavalry. We need Civilizations that are more focused on Culture, and the modern/industrial era.
I will say this however, I would love to see the Sioux and Inuit in a DLC somewhere down the road along side a Zulu Ethiopia DLC if neither are added in the Gods & Kings Expansion.
I would enjoy the Zulu
Leader: Shaka of the Zulu 1787-22 of September 1828
UU: Impi Warrior. Replaces Warrior. No terrain cost and +1 movement, Gains +25 attack boost if there are units in adjacent tiles.
UU: Dinizulu's Volunteers. Replaces Musketmen. Higher matinence than regular Musketmen, Better vs Melee units.
UA: Military Genius. Great generals appear after every new era, Upgrades cost -25% less.
That was just my personal one
The Sioux could be a culturally focused and horse cultured civ. Really it's the Mongols, and now the Huns too, that are horse cultures - just having a horsemen UU doesn't count, you need an ability around horses. I believe that there are enough civs for a third horse culture, and the Sioux are the most ideal that isn't in the game to fit this role.
I don't think the Sioux are in this expansion, but I think we should fight for them to be a DLC, because the Firaxis team responds to civs that are more popular...We need to show them that we care!
Agreed, we may also want to try to pop the Zulu and Inuit in there as well... Just saying. Russia could count as a horse civilization though, Their ability improves quantity of horses and they have cossacks.
Hmm, ok. Nevertheless, with the amount of civs in the game, and being added, there is room for multiple civs to each strategy, and each strategy has its own variation.
The Zulu are already incredibly popular, and are a classic - they've been in every prequel! The Inuit are getting support already, but we could definitely give them more...All three of these I want in the game anyway, so I'm happy to help push for all three.
Very well we must make this push, but how? How will we get them to put these civilizations in the game? To make a 50+ civilization game? Come up with a way and I'm in.
Polynesia, steth? Community demand => developer action.
There's a mod for TOR that has the orange pixel in it. Because people wanted it.
I vote for Poland - unique empire, which stopped the Ottoman advance into Europe.
Not a direct thread, but a poll like this where Polynesia was top five (i think hawk started it).
Also, if you really want to be technical the Austrians/Hungarians/Polish/Transylvanians that stopped the Ottoman advance. It was at the gates of Vienna, on Austrian soil, with the majority of the force present being Hungarian and Polish, with Dracula providing the initial reduction in Ottoman forces.
You can't claim entire credit for a victory that's not in your empire and not being fought entirely by your forces. That's like the Germans claiming credit for the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo, yes there were German mercenary reinforcements but its still an English win.
While I think the Polish should be in the game the Zulu are my number 1. After that I would love to see Poland, but the Zulus and Ethiopians first.
Basically, get more people talking about it.
The vikings were also strongly promoted, and the UA also closely reflects what was suggested (all units are amphibious).
I'm not sure what you consider "proof", but suggesting that the above was mere serendipity is fighting against the current of probability.
Having said that, we sure seem to harp on the same civ's over and over.
That said, I do have a desire to expand my knowledge of world history, and I'll take what you say into account in revising my proposal.
Ancient Era: Brutus
Classical Era: Arthur Pendragon
Medieval Era: Richard Lionheart
Renaissance: Henry VIII
Industrial Era: George III
Modern Era: Winston Churchill
Classical Era: Arthur Pendragon? This is a joke of course unless you want Robin Hood in Medieval Era and perhaps Sherlock Holmes in the Industrial age....although it is a toss up between James Bond and Harry Potter for the Modern Era. And Brutus....? Brutus who in the Ancient Era?
It looks like the entities between England and the UK, Britain etc is missing from the US educational system. I am starting to understand why there is an economic crisis emanating from the US...
As for 'saved their butts in 1917 and 1944', thanks for finally bothering to finally turn up...
Brutus refers to mythical descendant of Aeneas and founder of Britain (essentially their Romulus). He's almost certainly an invention, but nevertheless I maintain he's the best choice to be leader of the civilization in the ancient era.
I imagine the Brutus he's referring to is the one that James I/VI claimed descent from. At a guess.
And yeah, Americans being ignorant is no reason to pander to that ignorance. At least the English leader in the game was actually Queen of England, not the UK. Shame about the UA name and the SotL.
Now that we have Austria, Sweden, and Ethiopia (three of the poll's options), maybe this poll should be updated?
The American education system does not teach such nonsense, as bad as it is. I have no idea how anybody would be under the impression that England and the United Kingdom are the same thing.
The problem is that in the mindset of the world, there is absolutely no difference between the English and the British, because despite actually being British, the Scots and Welsh are viewed as separate cultures and nations. Ergo, there is no one else left to use the name British other than the English, so they come to mean the same thing.
Anyways, I just realized that this thread needs to be redone or the discussion merged with the other 'which civs do you want' threads. Several of the poll options are being added to G&K, which makes the poll obsolete.