Question about CIV Bonuses
If a Civ gets a tech as a bonus.
Like say the Chinese get Literacy.
Do they get the tech bonus for it as well? Assuming they reached that required era before anyone researched it? So for example would the Chinese received +1 science in every city? Or the Egyptians receive +1 population for Irrigation?
yes, but there are a few exceptions that I can think of, so there may be more....
Chinese start w/ writing but don't get the free spy
Greeks start w/ democracy, no free pikeman
English start w/ monarchy, no free great person
Spain start w/ navigation, no free galleon
basically, you can start w/ a free tech or form of government, but can't get a free unit out of it.... (but arabs do get the +1 culture bonus from religion).
but yes, chinese get the +1 science from literacy, which can be huge, Egyptians only need five cheap techs to get irrigation and +1 pop bonus.
thanks, that's very interesting!
i always wondered when playing against an Egyptian if i should bother going for the irrigation tech and when i did i still got the bonus but i realize now that i must have reached it before they even reached the medieval era.
maybe u misunderstood me
the Egyptians do get the +1 population bonus from free Irrigation.
the way u get to the midevil is by researching five techs, this is a lot less science than is required to get Irrigation w/ any other civ.
The Tech Path to Irrigation for other civs:
-Pottery (20 science)
-Masonary (30 science)
-Irrigation (50 science)
=100 required from when u start reseaching pottery (but not getting other valuble techs)
* but most people will reseach bronze working, horseback riding, or alphabet before going for masonary--->irrigation.
Tech path to Irrigation for Egyptians
just advance to midevil era, this can be done w/ cheap techs
Horseback riding- 20
bronze working- 20
irrigation- free after 5 techs
= 110 science required, but picking up all the early techs plus irrigation for free for advancing to midevil.
I don't think the Egyptians get the free population
they do, i just tested it
ok scratch that, maybe i was imagining things cause i tried it again and i swear it didnt work this time
I tried twice with last night and didn't get the +1 bonus from irrigation.
Mabye another civ got it first, but i doubt it.
I play Egypt a lot and they don't get the +1 pop bonus for free Irigation (even when getting it first). They do get it (as normal) if they actually research it first. I've been trying to figure out whether it's worthwhile to actually take the time to research Irigation for the bonus. Normally it costs me first to Construction. I guess it depends on how many cities one has at the time.
ok i guess grayson was wrong then.
that sucks would have been nice to get the free pop with the free tech
i was going to start playing Egyptians for that bonus, however if you don't get +1 pop its a totally useless medieval bonus....and really what good is +50% caravan gold in modern compared to +50% gold production. ill stick with Spanish and Aztecs for now.
Egypt gets +1 food and trade from deserts and a starting wonder (50% chance of awesome, 50% chance of next to useless). I never use the other bonuses. These are enough.
I tested it out, I got the colusses and just started reseaching everything but irrigation, and I know the ai didn't get it first, because some had no techs one did, but they always research bronze, and then iron working
By the way the Arabs caravan gold doesn't work, so we don't know if the Egyptians bonus actually works, making Egyptian lovers only like there starting and ancient bonus!!
I LOVE their ancient bonus and really like their starting one. I could live without extra rifleman movement for the 10 turns I actually have rifleman.
Originally Posted by Hellogoodbye123
I say the same for the French, since they get it modern, though sometimes it helps, because I change to fundamentalism, and I get them for a while
Originally Posted by IML Owl
I wish they had some other modern bonus and plus 3 cannon attack, I would love them even more