So let's summarize, what did 2K leave out/cut down on?

[Alx]

Let's get a picture of what Mafia 2, the game we had been waiting for so long, could have been if given a half to one year more time to get finished properly.

Left out/cut down

1. The story feels cut, rushed and unfinished
2. Melee weapons
3. Countryside
4. Train Station
5. Subway - public transport
6. Taxi - public transport
7. Be able to sit
8. Real Estate Offices (buy houses)
9. Motor Stores (buy cars)
10. Around 30 vehicles missing from the promised 70 (because of the "unqiue" launch DLCs?)
11. Freeride Extreme (because they needed something exclusive for PS3, but didn't have time to make something new?)
12. Freeride (being able to play the game with Vito when you are done with all missions)
13. Sidemissions - very obvious that they had planned this
14. 120 instead of 200 licensed music tracks (if I remember correct)
15. Motorcycles (probably)
16. Blindfire/Shooting out of cars (probably)
17. Manual gears
    
    
18. Barber shops (get your hair cut) - Ryan3D
19. Multiple endings - Lee James
20. PC steering wheel option - Adam12
21. Joe, Henry etc. taking damage during missions (and dying) - b772734
22. Option to change crosshairs like in first Mafia - Comp_Ali

I'm sure there is lots more, feel free to add stuff. I feel sad for the developers who had so much planned that they were not allowed to finish.


I think DonGTM sums it up nicely:

I don't know what is more sad, all the things that is so fundamentally wrong with the Mafia 2 and following DLC releases, or 2K (in the form of Elizabeth) keep trying to say that everything is as it's supposed to be.

Is Mafia 2 really supposed to be what it was at release? A chopped up game product with huge plot holes, obvious missing content, like when there is dialogue that refers to things that is not available in the game. And a story which somewhat missed it's potential because of annoying execution, like missions that goes on and on in cut-scene form, but has no real game play value.

And let's talk about dlc's, it introduces a completely different character that no-one in the main story knows about, yet he lives in the main characters apartment for no apparent reason and has the exact same body as the "hero". It has gameplay situations like missions, that is referred to in the main game but dosnt work, yet magically it works for the DLC. And it introduces game play that has absolutely nothing to do with the main theme of the Mafia games (keeping it somewhat down to earth and semi realistic). Arcade game style, points counter, leaderboard etc. etc.

It feels like the Mafia franchises development has turned from caring about and loving the brand, the details and the story to what can we churn out for the sake of profit. No offense to the team behind, but this is how it feels from a gamers perspective. All it's about is sucking money out of the franchise as fast as possible, until it's dead and buried.

My opinion is that Mafia 2 should never have been made for consoles, as simple as that. Multi-platform games always gets dumbed down and features are cut to handle the low spec consoles (compared to pc).

At least stop the thinking that you need to deliver exactly the same features across all platforms. Maximize the use of all platforms instead - and if that means having a PC version that is much better than the console versions, then so be it. It's better to have a game that is fantastic on 1 platform and average on 2, than having it average across all 3 of them.

[Orvarskorv]

So here we will post stuff that was actually cut from the game or stuff that would just have been nice to have but might never even have been considered by 2K? Or both?

[Alx]

Things that were left out, not things that would be nice to have.

[jonno394]

The first is down to personal taste. Just because you feel it felt rushed and unfinished does not mean it was.

[Bobsynergy]

The first is down to personal taste. Just because you feel it felt rushed and unfinished does not mean it was.

This, also they said they would put in motorcycles when they get it to work as good as the cars. They never cut them, don't assume things you don't know 100% sure of, it makes you look stupid.

[RunningBare]

Responses in bold.

Let's get a picture of what Mafia 2, they game we had been waiting for so long, could have been if given a half or one year more time to get finished properly.

Left out/cut down

1. The story feels cut, rushed and unfinished Agreed
2. Melee weapons comfirmed cut, can't hide anything from the modding community.
3. Countryside
4. Train Station, there is a train station, just no action there, no operational trains
5. Subway - public transport confirmerd cut
6. Taxi - public transport, there is some coding that suggest this may have been in at one time but not confirmed
7. Be able to sit not sure it was ever in, but should have been
8. Real Estate Offices (buy houses) something I would have liked to seen
9. Motor Stores (buy cars) the carcyclopedia uses the internal that was apparantly meant for the car showroom in game
10. Around 20 cars missing from the promised 70 (because of the "unqiue" launch DLCs?)
11. Freeride Extreme (because they needed something exclusive for PS3) also a confirmed cut on all other platforms, mods have found it, but it's only partial
12. Sidemissions - very obvious that they had planned this yeah, bruskie and derek come to mind, neither have work for you, yet you can deliver cars for cash, inconsistant
13. 120 instead of 200 licensed music tracks (if I remember correct)
14. Motorcycles (probably) said they could not make it work, yeah yeah, whatever

I'm sure there is lots more, feel free to add stuff. I feel sad for the developers who had so much planned, but were not allowed to finish.

[Bobsynergy]

@RunningBare, yeah Jack was asked a question about sitting and he said that you could sit anywhere that makes sense. I wish that was in, would love to buy some food and then just sit in one of the chair and enjoy the atmosphere of the city. Shame they took it out.

[Patata]

The first is down to personal taste. Just because you feel it felt rushed and unfinished does not mean it was.

So you really mean that what we got is a story that had a 700 pages script and it wasn't cut down?

[Silicon Vampire]

Things get cut in the design stage. Things get chopped after, for cash.

Please see the older thread, with more response that was closed in favor of this one.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/sho...t=85003&page=1

[iamck94]

This is a great thread

Elvis Songs- The 50's and no Elvis?!

More of the 50's- I thought this game spanned 10 years of his life. I swear I say the years 1955 and 1957 all over sites about Mafia 2

Ability to smoke- Would've been cool, same as eating and drinking. No stupid adverse health effects like half your life bar draining.

More variety of clothes-Except for Vangel's every store has the same option of clothes but with different colors

Shoot from cars- Really? You're going to put it in Mafia 1 and leave it out here. Everyone is going to compare this game to GTA and Mafia 1 and leaving that out is stupid

Putting bodies/guns in trunks- It'd be more realistic if you couldn't care 5 SMG's in your leather jacket but you could stop, get out, pop the trunk and grab a thompson and start blazin.

Don't loose remaining ammo in guns- Another great feature from Mafia 1 because no other game does it and it is realistic.

[DonGTM]

Some moderator nazi closed my thread, but I'll repeat it here then - it's a screenshot I found on the steam store page.

it's this one: Removed mission

It's a screenshot coming from a gameplay trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY93dIH8pc

What I found funny is that this screenshot is actually a selling point from the Steam store page even though its not a situation you can experience in the game.

[Patata]

I think the moderator just started to clean up again since the next DLC is about to get released

[b772734]

a little recap
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/ap...g?t=1283538033
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY93dIH8pc
http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/galerie/117/5-5.jpg
http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/galerie/117/screen5b.jpg

All found in PC full game.

00_70_00_0100:Missing In Action
00_70_00_0101:Crash Course In Sicilian
00_70_00_0102:Hide And Seek
00_70_00_0103:Man Of Honor
00_70_00_0104:Call Of Duty
00_70_00_0105:Back Up/Call Of Duty v2
00_70_00_0106:Death Squad
00_70_00_0107:People Power
00_70_00_0108:The Old Country

http://i38.tinypic.com/29onyb4.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRVjFtReMYU

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83963 (cant run out of gas)

http://blog.gib.me/wp-content/upload...6-40-08-04.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6gNc-Mp9XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KRF...layer_embedded

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84031 (a lot of missions cut)

removed some lines bc the space problem check the link to see the full list

00_70_00_0100: Lost in Action
00_70_00_0101: Accelerated course sicilštiny
00_70_00_0102: peekaboo
00_70_00_0103: Man of Honour
00_70_00_0104: Call duties
00_70_00_0105: Support / Call duties
00_70_00_0106: firing-squad
00_70_00_0107: People power
00_70_00_0108: Homeland
00_70_00_0200: Back in town
00_70_00_0201: Mom's pet
00_70_00_0202: Back at work
00_70_00_0203: Family Meeting
00_70_00_0204: Dog of the scrap yard
00_70_00_0205: Training wheels
00_70_00_0206: Walter and I
00_70_00_0207: Other performances
00_70_00_0208: Working tools
00_70_00_0209: My own car
00_70_00_0210: Racing
00_70_00_0211: Looking for a helper
00_70_00_0212: hard work
00_70_00_0213: Dirty work
00_70_00_0214: Share of trade unions
00_70_00_0215: The Road Home
00_70_00_0216: Home sweet home
00_70_00_0300: Civilian Life
00_70_00_0301: On a shot at Freddy's never early
00_70_00_0302: Meet Henry
00_70_00_0303: Taxi driver
00_70_00_0304: Preparing to enter
00_70_00_0305: Collecting stamps
00_70_00_0306: A Thief in the building!
00_70_00_0307: stamp collectors
00_70_00_0308: With a handful of tickets
00_70_00_0309: The allocation of race
00_70_00_0310: job well done
00_70_00_0311: Shopping late at night
00_70_00_0312: Easy money L***iter
00_70_00_0313: brothel in the trunk
00_70_00_0315: Blue Murder
00_70_00_0316: Time to relax
00_70_00_0317: Enemy of the State
00_70_00_0400: Armed and Dangerous
00_70_00_0401: With permission to kill
00_70_00_0402: Working for Uncle Sam
00_70_00_0403: Accurate work
00_70_00_0404: EFP
00_70_00_0406: I am ready
00_70_00_0408: Telephone Service
00_70_00_0409: Clothes Make the Man
00_70_00_0410: Shopping late at night
00_70_00_0411: We are not alone in the dark
00_70_00_0412: Competition has arrived
00_70_00_0413: Between the mer and anvil
00_70_00_0414: Irish luck
00_70_00_0415: Murphy's Law
00_70_00_0500: The early bird
00_70_00_0501: Girl problems
00_70_00_0502: How to treat a lady
00_70_00_0503: Working for the Mob
00_70_00_0505: Steve lazy
00_70_00_0506: No honor among thieves
00_70_00_0507: A racket for Derek
00_70_00_0508: Back to real work
00_70_00_0509: Tears in his eyes
00_70_00_0510: Firing Line
00_70_00_0511: Špekouna Kill!
00_70_00_0512: distillery
00_70_00_0513: Emergency Exit
00_70_00_0514: ambulance man
00_70_00_0515: Jackpot
00_70_00_0516: repayment
00_70_00_0517: Saw
00_70_00_0600: Fresh Meat
00_70_00_0601: Caged
00_70_00_0602: SOS
00_70_00_0603: Hostile reunion
00_70_00_0604: Hole
00_70_00_0605: Ray of hope
00_70_00_0606: People are still learning
00_70_00_0607: They can do Kung Fu
00_70_00_0608: Professional boxer
00_70_00_0609: Housekeeping
00_70_00_0610: Pretty scary
00_70_00_0611: Maximum scabies
00_70_00_0612: Lessons for idiots
00_70_00_0613: Well Spent time
00_70_00_0700: Taste of Freedom
00_70_00_0701: Back to work
00_70_00_0702: Ride to raise money
00_70_00_0703: Racing in dock
00_70_00_0704: Small tasting
00_70_00_0705: An ambush in broad daylight
00_70_00_0706: My own place
00_70_00_0707: Out of jail
00_70_00_0708: Poor Francesca
00_70_00_0709: good old Leo
00_70_00_0710: Soubojové gun
00_70_00_0711: Old relic
00_70_00_0712: Prison rules
00_70_00_0713: Serves you right
00_70_00_0715: honest work?
00_70_00_0716: Joe's surprise
00_70_00_0717: Garden of Eden
00_70_00_0718: hard-drinking fist
00_70_00_0719: Over the limit
00_70_00_0720: Disorder in the trunk
00_70_00_0721: Gravedigger
00_70_00_0722: Rest in peace
00_70_00_0723: Lights out and sleep
00_70_00_0724: Commemoration of Francesco Potenza
00_70_00_0800: Mild
00_70_00_0801: Heavy smoker
00_70_00_0802: Red, White and Blue
00_70_00_0803: Barbara Tobacco Inc.
00_70_00_0804: In a cloud of smoke
00_70_00_0805: follow the trail
00_70_00_0806: Crazy Horse Saloon
00_70_00_0807: Wild night at Crazy Horse
00_70_00_0808: Rozbíječi gates
00_70_00_0809: No shooting
00_70_00_0810: Who lives weapons ...
00_70_00_0811: Quick two thousand
00_70_00_0812: War booty
00_70_00_0813: Payback
00_70_00_0814: No time to rest
00_70_00_0815: A little bit of blackmail
00_70_00_0816: Selling Insurance
00_70_00_0817: Have you got enough?
00_70_00_0818: This is my territory
00_70_00_0819: Painful reminder
00_70_00_0820: Enough you?
00_70_00_0821: Good sleep
00_70_00_0822: WILD HOGS
00_70_00_0900: Sabbath
00_70_00_0901: Risky deal
00_70_00_0902: nerves of steel
00_70_00_0903: Collapse rich man
00_70_00_0904: Follow that car!
00_70_00_0905: Slaughter Buesa
00_70_00_0906: Channel rat
00_70_00_0907: Channel rat and ****y sauce
00_70_00_0908: Rescuing a tough financial
00_70_00_0909: With reinforcements
00_70_00_0910: The mother of all stink
00_70_00_0911: ****, wash and shave off
00_70_00_0912: tough and accounting
00_70_00_1000: Good Times
00_70_00_1001: Shipment for Mr. Clemente
00_70_00_1002: Devil's Plan
00_70_00_1003: Cleaning crew
00_70_00_1004: Less dust, more shooting
00_70_00_1005: Over the edge
00_70_00_1006: Randal on the roof
00_70_00_1007: Mizera is lucky
00_70_00_1008: Running down the hallway
00_70_00_1009: Playing for high stakes
00_70_00_1010: Finally, Mr. Clemente
00_70_00_1011: safecra*c*ker for rent
00_70_00_1012: Get on a gr***hopper
00_70_00_1013: safecra*c*ker I need to sleep
00_70_00_1014: Drunken brawler
00_70_00_1015: Hey, Joe
00_70_00_1016: Room Service
00_70_00_1100: like lightning
00_70_00_1101: Fidelity
00_70_00_1102: peekaboo
00_70_00_1103: Alongside
00_70_00_1104: For better or worse
00_70_00_1105: Lounge
00_70_00_1106: Be nice ...
00_70_00_1107: Hot House
00_70_00_1108: Outside, the frost
00_70_00_1109: slapping Irishman
00_70_00_1110: Revenge is sweet
00_70_00_1111: Family first
00_70_00_1112: Goodbye, old friend
00_70_00_1113: I need a drink
00_70_00_1114: For better or worse
00_70_00_1115: Lounge
00_70_00_1116: Be nice ...
00_70_00_1117: Hot House
00_70_00_1118: Outside, the frost
00_70_00_1119: slapping Irishman
00_70_00_1120: Freedom is sweet
00_70_00_1121: Our friend
00_70_00_1200: Henry's a big deal
00_70_00_1201: Dangerous goods
00_70_00_1202: cautious driver
00_70_00_1203: Henry's a big deal
00_70_00_1204: Desperate times, desperate means
00_70_00_1205: indebted
00_70_00_1206: name of the law stand
00_70_00_1207: Cops and Robbers
00_70_00_1208: The chase with the truck
00_70_00_1209: Settlement of accounts
00_70_00_1210: Sea gift
00_70_00_1300: Pretty deep in the ***
00_70_00_1301: Working for a husband
00_70_00_1302: Hot wheels
00_70_00_1303: Roll on the life
00_70_00_1304: Meeting in the Park
00_70_00_1305: Chinese meatloaf
00_70_00_1306: Delivery for Mr. Wong
00_70_00_1307: Closed due to renovation schemes
00_70_00_1308: Open the safe!
00_70_00_1309: I had to crawl out of bed ...
00_70_00_1310: The cops in the back
00_70_00_1311: Exit the Dragon
00_70_00_1400: Helping Harry
00_70_00_1401: sitting around with Joe
00_70_00_1402: Family Business
00_70_00_1403: Mr. Salieri sends greetings
00_70_00_1404: Helping an old friend
00_70_00_1405: arms dealer
00_70_00_1407: Fast Money
00_70_00_1409: Net Action
00_70_00_1411: A racket for Derek
00_70_00_1412: The Father
00_70_00_1413 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1414 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1415: Lost in Action
00_70_00_1416 Joe Barbaro, lost in action
00_70_00_1417: On the construction
00_70_00_1418: I hope I'm late ...
00_70_00_1419: Hold on, buddy
00_70_00_1420: We need to get out fast!
00_70_00_1421: captured!
00_70_00_1422: We need to get out fast!
00_70_00_1423: Grab your money and disappear!
00_70_00_1424: Doctor!
00_70_00_1425 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1426: God, I need to relax
00_70_00_1427: Steps to Heaven
00_70_00_1428: Steps to Heaven
00_70_00_1500: And back to the
00_70_00_1501: So who here is happiness?
00_70_00_1502: Hold it in the family
00_70_00_1503: Endgame for Vinci
00_70_00_1504: It may be only one
00_70_00_1505: Better Offer
00_70_00_1506: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1507: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1508: Another star in the sky
00_70_00_1509: Dual problem
00_70_00_1510: The end is near
00_70_00_1511: Dual problem
00_70_00_1512: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1513: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1514: Time for revenge
00_70_00_1517: There is no escape?
00_70_00_1520: Let God be judge
00_70_00_1521: The end is near
00_70_00_1522: Let God be judge
00_70_00_1523: Arrivederci, Carlo
00_70_00_1525: Better Offer
00_70_00_1526: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1527: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1528: Another star in the sky
00_70_00_1529: Hold it in the family
00_70_00_1530: Veni, Vidi, Vinci

[b772734]

Trains were once working fellas, here's the train yard back then

http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/galerie/117/5-5.jpg

Train yard now (inaccessible unless you glitch out)

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ainstation.png

While glitching through the map somebody discovered left overs of a subway tunnel

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/...59b17e75_o.jpg

This game that got released is clearly not what the czech devs wanted. Their work was completely butchered by these 2K jackasses (for lack of a better word) who cut a whole lot more than just a couple of corners to get the game released.

We should have saw this coming when Vavra and half the IS team quit but our love for the original Mafia kept us blinded.

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB0Kf...eature=related
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q01YY...eature=related
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCrr...ure=grec_index

You left out the best part.

http://i54.tinypic.com/ranckx.png

You would think they would at least change the name tag on the door.

http://mafiascene.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=20122

14_52_03_0004:You can give weapons to the workers.
14_52_02_0003:Don't leave the roof. You are supposed to supervise the transaction.
02_51_01_0008:Buy a can of fuel from a gas station to refill the tank
05_51_01_0014:Mission failed: Henry died!
05_51_01_0012:Mission failed: Jolanda died!
02_58_00_0001:Wanna drive?
02_58_00_0002:Yes
02_58_00_0003:No

and a few more i dont know but looks that they removed some of those small things that makes you love a game

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85350
http://i56.tinypic.com/20uoc5i.png xD
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85301
http://i38.tinypic.com/ejg3n9.jpg

[Bobsynergy]

a little recap
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/ap...g?t=1283538033
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY93dIH8pc
http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/galerie/117/5-5.jpg
http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/galerie/117/screen5b.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRVjFtReMYU

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83963 (cant run out of gas)

http://blog.gib.me/wp-content/upload...6-40-08-04.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6gNc-Mp9XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KRF...layer_embedded

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84031 (a lot of missions cut)

removed some lines bc the space problem check the link to see the full list

00_70_00_0100: Lost in Action
00_70_00_0101: Accelerated course sicilštiny
00_70_00_0102: peekaboo
00_70_00_0103: Man of Honour
00_70_00_0104: Call duties
00_70_00_0105: Support / Call duties
00_70_00_0106: firing-squad
00_70_00_0107: People power
00_70_00_0108: Homeland
00_70_00_0200: Back in town
00_70_00_0201: Mom's pet
00_70_00_0202: Back at work
00_70_00_0203: Family Meeting
00_70_00_0204: Dog of the scrap yard
00_70_00_0205: Training wheels
00_70_00_0206: Walter and I
00_70_00_0207: Other performances
00_70_00_0208: Working tools
00_70_00_0209: My own car
00_70_00_0210: Racing
00_70_00_0211: Looking for a helper
00_70_00_0212: hard work
00_70_00_0213: Dirty work
00_70_00_0214: Share of trade unions
00_70_00_0215: The Road Home
00_70_00_0216: Home sweet home
00_70_00_0300: Civilian Life
00_70_00_0301: On a shot at Freddy's never early
00_70_00_0302: Meet Henry
00_70_00_0303: Taxi driver
00_70_00_0304: Preparing to enter
00_70_00_0305: Collecting stamps
00_70_00_0306: A Thief in the building!
00_70_00_0307: stamp collectors
00_70_00_0308: With a handful of tickets
00_70_00_0309: The allocation of race
00_70_00_0310: job well done
00_70_00_0311: Shopping late at night
00_70_00_0312: Easy money L***iter
00_70_00_0313: brothel in the trunk
00_70_00_0315: Blue Murder
00_70_00_0316: Time to relax
00_70_00_0317: Enemy of the State
00_70_00_0400: Armed and Dangerous
00_70_00_0401: With permission to kill
00_70_00_0402: Working for Uncle Sam
00_70_00_0403: Accurate work
00_70_00_0404: EFP
00_70_00_0406: I am ready
00_70_00_0408: Telephone Service
00_70_00_0409: Clothes Make the Man
00_70_00_0410: Shopping late at night
00_70_00_0411: We are not alone in the dark
00_70_00_0412: Competition has arrived
00_70_00_0413: Between the mer and anvil
00_70_00_0414: Irish luck
00_70_00_0415: Murphy's Law
00_70_00_0500: The early bird
00_70_00_0501: Girl problems
00_70_00_0502: How to treat a lady
00_70_00_0503: Working for the Mob
00_70_00_0505: Steve lazy
00_70_00_0506: No honor among thieves
00_70_00_0507: A racket for Derek
00_70_00_0508: Back to real work
00_70_00_0509: Tears in his eyes
00_70_00_0510: Firing Line
00_70_00_0511: Špekouna Kill!
00_70_00_0512: distillery
00_70_00_0513: Emergency Exit
00_70_00_0514: ambulance man
00_70_00_0515: Jackpot
00_70_00_0516: repayment
00_70_00_0517: Saw
00_70_00_0600: Fresh Meat
00_70_00_0601: Caged
00_70_00_0602: SOS
00_70_00_0603: Hostile reunion
00_70_00_0604: Hole
00_70_00_0605: Ray of hope
00_70_00_0606: People are still learning
00_70_00_0607: They can do Kung Fu
00_70_00_0608: Professional boxer
00_70_00_0609: Housekeeping
00_70_00_0610: Pretty scary
00_70_00_0611: Maximum scabies
00_70_00_0612: Lessons for idiots
00_70_00_0613: Well Spent time
00_70_00_0700: Taste of Freedom
00_70_00_0701: Back to work
00_70_00_0702: Ride to raise money
00_70_00_0703: Racing in dock
00_70_00_0704: Small tasting
00_70_00_0705: An ambush in broad daylight
00_70_00_0706: My own place
00_70_00_0707: Out of jail
00_70_00_0708: Poor Francesca
00_70_00_0709: good old Leo
00_70_00_0710: Soubojové gun
00_70_00_0711: Old relic
00_70_00_0712: Prison rules
00_70_00_0713: Serves you right
00_70_00_0715: honest work?
00_70_00_0716: Joe's surprise
00_70_00_0717: Garden of Eden
00_70_00_0718: hard-drinking fist
00_70_00_0719: Over the limit
00_70_00_0720: Disorder in the trunk
00_70_00_0721: Gravedigger
00_70_00_0722: Rest in peace
00_70_00_0723: Lights out and sleep
00_70_00_0724: Commemoration of Francesco Potenza
00_70_00_0800: Mild
00_70_00_0801: Heavy smoker
00_70_00_0802: Red, White and Blue
00_70_00_0803: Barbara Tobacco Inc.
00_70_00_0804: In a cloud of smoke
00_70_00_0805: follow the trail
00_70_00_0806: Crazy Horse Saloon
00_70_00_0807: Wild night at Crazy Horse
00_70_00_0808: Rozbíječi gates
00_70_00_0809: No shooting
00_70_00_0810: Who lives weapons ...
00_70_00_0811: Quick two thousand
00_70_00_0812: War booty
00_70_00_0813: Payback
00_70_00_0814: No time to rest
00_70_00_0815: A little bit of blackmail
00_70_00_0816: Selling Insurance
00_70_00_0817: Have you got enough?
00_70_00_0818: This is my territory
00_70_00_0819: Painful reminder
00_70_00_0820: Enough you?
00_70_00_0821: Good sleep
00_70_00_0822: WILD HOGS
00_70_00_0900: Sabbath
00_70_00_0901: Risky deal
00_70_00_0902: nerves of steel
00_70_00_0903: Collapse rich man
00_70_00_0904: Follow that car!
00_70_00_0905: Slaughter Buesa
00_70_00_0906: Channel rat
00_70_00_0907: Channel rat and ****y sauce
00_70_00_0908: Rescuing a tough financial
00_70_00_0909: With reinforcements
00_70_00_0910: The mother of all stink
00_70_00_0911: ****, wash and shave off
00_70_00_0912: tough and accounting
00_70_00_1000: Good Times
00_70_00_1001: Shipment for Mr. Clemente
00_70_00_1002: Devil's Plan
00_70_00_1003: Cleaning crew
00_70_00_1004: Less dust, more shooting
00_70_00_1005: Over the edge
00_70_00_1006: Randal on the roof
00_70_00_1007: Mizera is lucky
00_70_00_1008: Running down the hallway
00_70_00_1009: Playing for high stakes
00_70_00_1010: Finally, Mr. Clemente
00_70_00_1011: safecra*c*ker for rent
00_70_00_1012: Get on a gr***hopper
00_70_00_1013: safecra*c*ker I need to sleep
00_70_00_1014: Drunken brawler
00_70_00_1015: Hey, Joe
00_70_00_1016: Room Service
00_70_00_1100: like lightning
00_70_00_1101: Fidelity
00_70_00_1102: peekaboo
00_70_00_1103: Alongside
00_70_00_1104: For better or worse
00_70_00_1105: Lounge
00_70_00_1106: Be nice ...
00_70_00_1107: Hot House
00_70_00_1108: Outside, the frost
00_70_00_1109: slapping Irishman
00_70_00_1110: Revenge is sweet
00_70_00_1111: Family first
00_70_00_1112: Goodbye, old friend
00_70_00_1113: I need a drink
00_70_00_1114: For better or worse
00_70_00_1115: Lounge
00_70_00_1116: Be nice ...
00_70_00_1117: Hot House
00_70_00_1118: Outside, the frost
00_70_00_1119: slapping Irishman
00_70_00_1120: Freedom is sweet
00_70_00_1121: Our friend
00_70_00_1200: Henry's a big deal
00_70_00_1201: Dangerous goods
00_70_00_1202: cautious driver
00_70_00_1203: Henry's a big deal
00_70_00_1204: Desperate times, desperate means
00_70_00_1205: indebted
00_70_00_1206: name of the law stand
00_70_00_1207: Cops and Robbers
00_70_00_1208: The chase with the truck
00_70_00_1209: Settlement of accounts
00_70_00_1210: Sea gift
00_70_00_1300: Pretty deep in the ***
00_70_00_1301: Working for a husband
00_70_00_1302: Hot wheels
00_70_00_1303: Roll on the life
00_70_00_1304: Meeting in the Park
00_70_00_1305: Chinese meatloaf
00_70_00_1306: Delivery for Mr. Wong
00_70_00_1307: Closed due to renovation schemes
00_70_00_1308: Open the safe!
00_70_00_1309: I had to crawl out of bed ...
00_70_00_1310: The cops in the back
00_70_00_1311: Exit the Dragon
00_70_00_1400: Helping Harry
00_70_00_1401: sitting around with Joe
00_70_00_1402: Family Business
00_70_00_1403: Mr. Salieri sends greetings
00_70_00_1404: Helping an old friend
00_70_00_1405: arms dealer
00_70_00_1407: Fast Money
00_70_00_1409: Net Action
00_70_00_1411: A racket for Derek
00_70_00_1412: The Father
00_70_00_1413 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1414 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1415: Lost in Action
00_70_00_1416 Joe Barbaro, lost in action
00_70_00_1417: On the construction
00_70_00_1418: I hope I'm late ...
00_70_00_1419: Hold on, buddy
00_70_00_1420: We need to get out fast!
00_70_00_1421: captured!
00_70_00_1422: We need to get out fast!
00_70_00_1423: Grab your money and disappear!
00_70_00_1424: Doctor!
00_70_00_1425 Repayments for the loan sharks
00_70_00_1426: God, I need to relax
00_70_00_1427: Steps to Heaven
00_70_00_1428: Steps to Heaven
00_70_00_1500: And back to the
00_70_00_1501: So who here is happiness?
00_70_00_1502: Hold it in the family
00_70_00_1503: Endgame for Vinci
00_70_00_1504: It may be only one
00_70_00_1505: Better Offer
00_70_00_1506: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1507: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1508: Another star in the sky
00_70_00_1509: Dual problem
00_70_00_1510: The end is near
00_70_00_1511: Dual problem
00_70_00_1512: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1513: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1514: Time for revenge
00_70_00_1517: There is no escape?
00_70_00_1520: Let God be judge
00_70_00_1521: The end is near
00_70_00_1522: Let God be judge
00_70_00_1523: Arrivederci, Carlo
00_70_00_1525: Better Offer
00_70_00_1526: Visit the planetarium
00_70_00_1527: Fly me to the moon
00_70_00_1528: Another star in the sky
00_70_00_1529: Hold it in the family
00_70_00_1530: Veni, Vidi, Vinci

Holy ☺☺☺☺ some people can't read and just like to bash the game for no good reason, none of those are cut chapters, those are checkpoints and cutscenes, learn to read before you go posting ☺☺☺☺ you know nothing about. The game still has 15 chapters if you look, also a majority of those are still in the game.

Edit: How is Ricks load chapter mod cut from game, all games, ALL of them have debug chapters for freakin testing the levels.

[packardcaribien]

Elvis and Sinatra weren't cut, they just had licenensing troubles.

And there are only 35 cars in the base game - meaning that HALF OF THE CARS WERE CUT; from 70.

[b772734]

Holy ☺☺☺☺ some people can't read and just like to bash the game for no good reason, none of those are cut chapters, those are checkpoints and cutscenes, learn to read before you go posting ☺☺☺☺ you know nothing about. The game still has 15 chapters if you look, also a majority of those are still in the game.

Edit: How is Ricks load chapter mod cut from game, all games, ALL of them have debug chapters for freakin testing the levels.

does anyone know how to block people i wont waste my time fighting with an employed of 2k

and for the real players a comparison of a real cinematic (mafia 1) vs the boring cinematics of mafia 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODsY...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLAA9B_yG4I

[rick2201]

damn you 2k i want to work for eddie and make paper
http://blog.gib.me/wp-content/upload...6-40-08-04.jpg

[Bobsynergy]

does anyone know how to block people i wont waste my time fighting with an employed of 2k

and for the real players a comparison of a real cinematic (mafia 1) vs the boring cinematics of mafia 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODsY...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLAA9B_yG4I

Your exactly right, you caught me, I'm an employee of 2k because I know what I am talking about and I don't complain about something without knowing anything about it. Your exactly right, gosh your so smart you know everything.

[rick2201]

ja-is that joe's adventures?...wow 2k just wow yall cut that why?

[rick2201]

does anyone know how to block people i wont waste my time fighting with an employed of 2k

and for the real players a comparison of a real cinematic (mafia 1) vs the boring cinematics of mafia 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODsY...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLAA9B_yG4I

then don't waste you time fighting with someone then simple as that!!

[Lee James]

did you mention the multiple endings? Or how there used to be moral descions which would affect the ending? How about reading news papers? Or how half way through the game you could chose which family you wanted to work for, which would have affected the ending? Also the side missions as well.

[RunningBare]

did you mention the multiple endings? Or how there used to be moral descions which would affect the ending? How about reading news papers? Or how half way through the game you could chose which family you wanted to work for, which would have affected the ending? Also the side missions as well.

You can still hear the sound echoing "chop, chop, chop"

[raskarl889]

the devs said the ***king game was meant to finish around 1957...it finishes in 1951. can't they count or were they deliberately lying to us???
either way it smacks of foul play. i'm not impressed.

[Ryan3D]

Let's get a picture of what Mafia 2, they game we had been waiting for so long, could have been if given a half or one year more time to get finished properly.

Left out/cut down

1. The story feels cut, rushed and unfinished
2. Melee weapons
3. Countryside
4. Train Station
5. Subway - public transport
6. Taxi - public transport
7. Be able to sit
8. Real Estate Offices (buy houses)
9. Motor Stores (buy cars)
10. Around 20 cars missing from the promised 70 (because of the "unqiue" launch DLCs?)
11. Freeride Extreme (because they needed something exclusive for PS3)
12. Sidemissions - very obvious that they had planned this
13. 120 instead of 200 licensed music tracks (if I remember correct)
14. Motorcycles (probably)

I'm sure there is lots more, feel free to add stuff. I feel sad for the developers who had so much planned, but were not allowed to finish.

barber shops, you can see the full interiors around town but not able to get in;[ and you can get into the country side, but you need to jump from a semi to be able to, its going to be 'unlocked' from a 10 $ dlc. :[

[BiteMyBios]

Alright, why does people keep questions "how can you tell if the script was chopped? no one can say for sure!" and about the game spamming 10 years of Vito's life...hell, it spans 15 days, in Mafia 1 a chapter felt more envolving as it was slowly going forward...1932...then 1933..1935...and then 1938...or something that way, you felt like you were part of Tommy's life as you saw the key momments of his life..Vito's key momments were...uhh...him going to prison and Henry's death i guess...other than that i see not much point in his life...to not be like his father i guess...and to be rich? dunno, i didn't feel as connected to him as i did with Tommy, and yes, moral desitions were totally in it...like back at the Room Service chapter when Clemente uses the elevator and when it comes back up, an old lady comes outta it...in the first version you could actually decide wether or not to kill that lady, and that would have an impact on Vito, same thing happens on the chapter where you have to save Leo...i think originally you could choose, wheter or not to warn him...yes, many things were chopped...and yes, it was originally a 700 pages script...it originally had countryside...side missions...even more characters...but at the end, countryside was chopped, characters were deleted...side missiosn were completly casted out...the city itself got cutted down...features got removed...the script got reduced to a what? 300-500 pages script? but most importantly, Mafia II did a 180 turn in the wrong direction, at least in my opinion, it is a good game, but at the end, they simply didn't make a game.

[GuitarrassDeAmor]

I call a class action lawsuit. Not really...but someone email Joystiq and let's get answers to why this crap was cut. I'm mad.

[Orvarskorv]

How do you know there is(was) a countryside? Never seen anything written about it or any pictures.

[BiteMyBios]

How do you know there is(was) a countryside? Never seen anything written about it or any pictures.

It was already stated that the countryside would be in fact, smaller than in the first game, however, it would be there, but i'm pretty sure that by "smaller" countryside they didn't mean mountains on the background.

[b772734]

Some more codes were found apparently.

The Diamond Motor Show: http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/data/mafi...7-42-44-40.jpg

and this Real Estate Office: http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/data/mafi...0-46-05-14.jpg

were all once enterable buildings according to the codes.

Thus meaning, in the previous build we were able to purchase cars, and purchase homes. Sad.

http://mafia2.scorpions.cz/

Google translate
http://translate.google.com/translat....cz/%26hl%3Den

Locked building
05.09.2010 11:37 - Jaroslav Řízek | zdroj: vlastní May 9, 2010 11:37 - Jaroslav Heel | Source: Own

Previously we wrote about the discovery of texts from the game code to demonstrate the presence of absent things in the game.. Motor Show, you certainly noticed in the city (if not, visit the City), in-depth investigation in the city you come to a real estate agency. Autosalon may be in town only as a supplement and discovered a real estate office just as a random building, such as pizza, but not so. Furthermore, the texts of the game code to prove it and glass buildings. It's exactly the type of glass that are accessible to all businesses in the town when the load. This is an investigation of memory for the console. Furthermore, this glass shows punctuality and building their log.

one more to the list

[rick2201]

why 2k why

[Argen_EsB]

bullet casings and magazines disappear when they hit the ground and don't make any sound, whereas in Mafia 1 they stay on the ground, they make quite a noise and they even had physics.
Overally the game feels nerfed. They put that fancy cover system but at the same time they took out the dodge roll. You have to rely on cover, but if there isn't any you are dead.

[rick2201]

bullet casings and magazines disappear when they hit the ground and don't make any sound, whereas in Mafia 1 they stay on the ground, they make quite a noise and they even had physics.
Overally the game feels nerfed. They put that fancy cover system but at the same time they took out the dodge roll. You have to rely on cover, but if there isn't any you are dead.

blame 2k for all of that they screwed up what would be an awesome game

[Adam12]

I'm sure it's been said a million times already, but NO PC Steering Wheel input.

And game control setup really sucks.

[Harrison7307]

lol,with all the butchering of the game,i wonder if it was wise of them to have their pics of themselves on wanted posters,knowing we all know what they look like,wonder how many ppl here are gonna do hits on them lmao...

[Spiral Static]

Did everybody forget about the suits without hats? Jack said that there would be suits without hats. He completely lied to us.

[Spiral Static]

blame 2k for all of that they screwed up what would be an awesome game

Yep, just like big recording labels ruin good artists (Muse), big publishers ruin good games.

[b772734]

Yep, just like big recording labels ruin good artists (Muse), big publishers ruin good games.

greedy publishers ruin a good game

[rick2201]

watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl9Wd9ru_Ig @4:40
he doesn't get his identity told to the police but in the full game you do that and they know who you are

[Alx]

Added a few things to the main list from some posts here.