GI News (Note from 2K Elizabeth: Rumor -- not real plot)

[kylehimself]

So I read some news about the GI article which I think is pretty solid. (mods, if you happen to know this is bullcrap then go ahead and lock) Just thought I'd post this since it seems pretty interesting.

Here is an alternative retelling of the Game Informer article that backs up some points and has a few other pieces of info.

"- Takes place 7 years after the original. The main character is Jake Abbott, a private investigator searching for one of the girls kidnapped by Big Sister.

- Two-player co-op is added.

- New enemies include spliced up dogs and bipedal robots, which like other mechanical enemies can be hacked to assist the player.

- Two of the new plasmids were revealed. One slows down time for a few seconds. The more interesting one is Telepathy, which you can use to eavesdrop on the thoughts of NPCs and gain information. For example, you can use Telepathy to uncover the combination to a keypad or gain insights into enemy weaknesses which translate into damage bonuses and new tonics.

- Epic boss battles and underwater gameplay. Much of Rapture is now flooded and you will need to don a diving suit to explore these areas as well as venture outside Rapture itself. An underwater boss fight was shown with a gigantic squid, which can cloak itself and use its massive tentacles to smash into Rapture and hurl debris. One of the concept artworks hinted at a boss battle with a mutated, spliced rhino in Rapture's zoo.

- Jake won't be the only one investigating Rapture. At some point in the story, Soviet agents arrive from a submarine, hoping to acquire Adam and use it to gain an advantage over the Americans in the Cold War. Soviet enemies will be much smarter than splicers, using cover and flanking maneuvers and working in groups. As the game progresses they will begin splicing themselves and be able to use plasmids against you. The Soviets and splicers will fight against each other and the player can use that to their advantage. "

Post
Thread

(Above links may appear as "Internal Server Error" Just give them a bit of time and try again)

What do we think then?

[Kyburz]

I am starting to think this is real. Here are two other independent sources reporting on this.

Bioshock 2 Game Informer info.

-Jake Abbott is the main character
-Takes place 7 years after Bioshock 1
-Epic boat chase cutscene
-2 Player Co-op Play
-New enemies include Cold War Soviets, Giant Squid, Rhino, and dogs
-Under Water Exploration
-A Plasmid that slows down time and a Telepathy Plasmid that listens to enemy thoughts
-Big Sister replaces Big Daddies' role in last game
-Reworked Vita-Chamber system


and

From the April Issue
-You play as Jack Abbott
-Game takes place in 1967, 7 years after the original
-A cutscene starts the game off In New York City as Jack intercepts the Big Sister kidnapping his daughter in his beachhouse. He follows it to the near by shores as it submerges into the water.
-Mark chases the Big Sister with his boat, and follows the bright red light it makes underwater.
-Mark fires a gun at the Big Sister and pisses it off, causing it to wreck his boat, causing Mark to black out.
-Only one Big Sister (Mastermind of game)
-Big Daddies are no longer in the game, but new enemies include dogs, soviets and....SOVIETS!?!?.
-Comepletely new levels of Rapture, including a fully explorable zoo.
-Underwater exploration levels.
-Squid Boss battles
-New weapons and plasmids (Including a telepathy and time control)
-Challenge maps
-2 Player co-op. (No mention on who second player is)
-New Health and Revival System

[kylehimself]

I am starting to think this is real.

Sounds legit to me mate. Not sure what I think about some of it yet. (assuming it's true)

[Blitzkrieg]

I am starting to think this is real. Here are two other independent sources reporting on this.


From the April Issue
-You play as Jack Abbott
-Game takes place in 1967, 7 years after the original
-A cutscene starts the game off In New York City as Jack intercepts the Big Sister kidnapping his daughter in his beachhouse. He follows it to the near by shores as it submerges into the water.
-Mark chases the Big Sister with his boat, and follows the bright red light it makes underwater.
-Mark fires a gun at the Big Sister and pisses it off, causing it to wreck his boat, causing Mark to black out.
-Only one Big Sister (Mastermind of game)
-Big Daddies are no longer in the game, but new enemies include dogs, soviets and....SOVIETS!?!?.
-Comepletely new levels of Rapture, including a fully explorable zoo.
-Underwater exploration levels.
-Squid Boss battles
-New weapons and plasmids (Including a telepathy and time control)
-Challenge maps
-2 Player co-op. (No mention on who second player is)
-New Health and Revival System

I like everything mentioned except the Soviets, dogs, squids and lack of BIG Daddies.

Edit: Kyburz, could you link the info you posted? I know one is from the Gamespot forums, but wheres the other one from?

[manan123]

wow well im liking this story alot better than the other story that was posted thats for sure

[Who_is_Atlas?]

Well...I really don't know how to feel about this, honestly. I'm definitely going to miss Big Daddies and splicers, if all of this is true. And I'm not so sure I'm really keen on having Soviets and, erm, spliced dogs and robots in the game. I really wish this didn't seem to be drifting THAT far away from BioShock 1. Not so sure on the challenge rooms as I never got to play them (I own BioShock for the 360), either.

On the other hand, the boss battles actually, IMO, sound kind of epic. And having the Big Sister as our main antagonist is pretty interesting. Underwater diving stuff? Heck yes. The new plasmids also sound pretty neat as well and I think I'm kinda excited about a co-op mode.

Of course, if all of this is true. Unfortunately guys, NeoGAF is rarely ever wrong; they actually predicted the entirety of Super Smash Bros. Brawl's roster, for example, before it came out.

[vitiis]

I wish we would get official confirmation of something. It's getting really confusing to decipher what is real and what isn't.

I like the bit about exploring the waters with diving apparatus and such but eh, I don't know...I didn't think "wow, amazing" when I read it. Dammit. I guess I'll just have to wait til it comes out.

[Blitzkrieg]

Well...I really don't know how to feel about this, honestly. I'm definitely going to miss Big Daddies and splicers, if all of this is true. And I'm not so sure I'm really keen on having Soviets and, erm, spliced dogs and robots in the game. I really wish this didn't seem to be drifting THAT far away from BioShock 1. Not so sure on the challenge rooms as I never got to play them (I own BioShock for the 360).

On the other hand, the boss battles actually, IMO, sound kind of epic. And having the Big Sister as our main antagonist is pretty interesting. Underwater diving stuff? Heck yes. The new plasmids also sound pretty neat as well...

Of course, if all of this is true. Unfortunately guys, NeoGAF is rarely ever wrong; they actually predicted the entirety of Super Smash Bros. Brawl's roster, for example, before it came out.

Big Daddies and Spilcers couldn't go absent from the games entirety, could they? God I hope not, they're two of the most defining things from BioShock IMO. I do have to say, I'm interested in how they'll incorporate co-op (if this is all true).

[Scifiguy]

Hoping it isn't real. I'm hoping that the Soviets and Spliced... Dogs and Robots aren't real, doesn't feel like BioShock to me. And no Big Daddies? The idea of underwater exploration sounds great though! Maybe squid battles.

We need verification, though!

[vitiis]

Well...I really don't know how to feel about this, honestly. I'm definitely going to miss Big Daddies and splicers, if all of this is true. And I'm not so sure I'm really keen on having Soviets and, erm, spliced dogs and robots in the game. I really wish this didn't seem to be drifting THAT far away from BioShock.

On the other hand, the boss battles actually, IMO, sound kind of epic. And having the Big Sister as our main antagonist is pretty interesting. Underwater diving stuff? Heck yes. The new plasmids also sound pretty neat as well and I think I'm kinda excited about a co-op mode.

That is pretty much exactly how I feel too.

[blake2t2]

i just cant wait until the game dev. conv.---i hope it will put all these stupid rumors to death--

the only cool thing was the rapture zoo-- thats RE all over again. been there done that--nothing new at all

soviets? ugh--no thanks! splicers are good enough for me! commie splicers? hmmm...still no sorry--

swimming parts of the game...eh could be cool

giant squid---why would you fight a squid? that makes zero sense--unless it was spliced beyond human imagination

a slow down plasmid--hey! fear!? anyone?!

telepathy--50/50 could be fun the first few times.

if this is all true looks like itll be a renter!

[Fountainhead]

Well...I really don't know how to feel about this, honestly. I'm definitely going to miss Big Daddies and splicers, if all of this is true. And I'm not so sure I'm really keen on having Soviets and, erm, spliced dogs and robots in the game. I really wish this didn't seem to be drifting THAT far away from BioShock 1. Not so sure on the challenge rooms as I never got to play them (I own BioShock for the 360), either.

On the other hand, the boss battles actually, IMO, sound kind of epic. And having the Big Sister as our main antagonist is pretty interesting. Underwater diving stuff? Heck yes. The new plasmids also sound pretty neat as well and I think I'm kinda excited about a co-op mode.

Of course, if all of this is true. Unfortunately guys, NeoGAF is rarely ever wrong; they actually predicted the entirety of Super Smash Bros. Brawl's roster, for example, before it came out.

i feel the same, it strays VERY far from BS1. an entirely different game. But it sounds sweet too... I'll definitely keep BS1 separate as my favorite, but this game will definitely come through too. One thing i do hope for, though, is a mid-game plot twist, and not a predictable one too.

edit: the scares better still be there. These things sound much more shooter/adventure, not necessarily scary. spoiler just in case

[Who_is_Atlas?]

Well everyone, I'm going to be going out in a bit and I'm going to see if my local Blockbuster is carrying the newest issue of Game Informer (and maybe some other stores tomorrow). If they are carrying the issue, I'll try to look through it and will try to confirm or not if all of this is true. Unfortunately, I can't promise anything if my Blockbuster doesn't have the issue, but I'll try.

[kylehimself]

Hoping it isn't real. I'm hoping that the Soviets and Spliced... Dogs and Robots aren't real, doesn't feel like BioShock to me. And no Big Daddies? The idea of underwater exploration sounds great though! Maybe squid battles.

We need verification, though!

Alot of the details posted match with other reports. I think this is the real deal. Co-op could be fun... Key word "could" but I'm not sure if it's very BioShock. As for Soviets and spliced dogs, ☺☺☺?

That said, this has got me more interested than that picture of the big Sister. Still not sure what I think.

[Scifiguy]

Well everyone, I'm going to be going out in a bit and I'm going to see if my local Blockbuster is carrying the newest issue of Game Informer (and maybe some other stores tomorrow). If they are carrying the issue, I'll try to look through it and will try to confirm or not if all of this is true. Unfortunately, I can't promise anything if my Blockbuster doesn't have the issue, but I'll try.

Hopefully this is all just the result of trolling and rumors, but for some reason, I have a bad feeling about BioShock 2...

[Kyburz]

Blitzkrieg- Both of the lists are from separate threads on the Gamespot forums

Here are a few scattered thoughts:

I am really glad to see the Rapture Zoo getting some love. That was one of my dreams for Bioshock 2 so it is great to see that it made it.

The lack of Big Daddies is puzzling but Game Informer on the website said "wait until you see what happened to the Big Daddies!" or something like that so the jury might still be out.

The telepathy plasmid kind of makes it sound like there might be more non-hostile NPCs to interact with. If that's the case, I would definitely count that as a plus.

Some of these things like Soviets and giant squids do give me concern that they are moving to making Bioshock more of a generic run and gun game. Coop is cool. One notable omission though is competitive multiplayer. Perhaps 2k is holding some aces up their sleeve for one of the trade shows but frankly I won't be heartbroken if it isn't in there, and it might just be for the best.

I would just say I really hope that 2k Marin is keeping Bioshock an intellectual game with some real substance and deep ideas and not just a game where you can shoot monsters and evil commies.

[Scifiguy]

:

I would just say I really hope that 2k Marin is keeping Bioshock an intellectual game with some real substance and deep ideas and not just a game where you can shoot monsters and evil commies.

Right there with you. Unless they are holding some stuff up their sleeves for the later stages of the hype fest, we might just have another Halo on our hands...

[blake2t2]

I would just say I really hope that 2k Marin is keeping Bioshock an intellectual game with some real substance and deep ideas and not just a game where you can shoot monsters and evil commies.

i agree sir--the spliced up zombies is an other reference to a newer game--

NAZI ZOMBIES IN COD 5!?!!?! thats three things taken from other games! fear-re-cod 5

why not use some stuff from idk....nba 2009?! man---

if any of this is true---ugh i cant even think it! and if there is coop it better not suck--like RE5 coop....just down right awful--

[Raining Light]

To be honest I wont believe anything now tell the mag comes out.


I hope 1/2 of this isnt true.
Some of it isn't so bad.
No BDs?
BS replacing them, but I thought there was only 1
No coop or multiplayer please.
The squid and dogs just blah.
Soviets make some sense cause Ryan was Russian.
Plasmids are ok. Could lead to more stealth.

[blake2t2]

To be honest I wont believe anything now tell the mag comes out.

HOPEFULLY the mag debunks all of this (excluding the who well be playing as) if it confirms it however ill be a little disappointed---anyone else feel this way?

[Scifiguy]

HOPEFULLY the mag debunks all of this (excluding the who well be playing as) if it confirms it however ill be a little disappointed---anyone else feel this way?

I'm guessing anyone who loved BioShock 1 will be very dissapointed. Sadly, I think the "fratboy" gamer audience will love it.

[Raining Light]

HOPEFULLY the mag debunks all of this (excluding the who well be playing as) if it confirms it however ill be a little disappointed---anyone else feel this way?

Some of it isnt so bad.
Some is corny.

[blake2t2]

I'm guessing anyone who loved BioShock 1 will be very dissapointed. Sadly, I think the "fratboy" gamer audience will love it.

what do you mean by fratboy gamer?

[SaintofRapture]

Some of those details make me feel like Andrew Ryan is spinning in his grave.

[blake2t2]

Some is corny.

corny as in fighting a giant squid?

[Scifiguy]

what do you mean by fratboy gamer?

The college aged, avid Halo player. If you've ever watched G4 you'll know what I mean...

Indeed, Saint of Rapture.

[vitiis]

Some of those details make me feel like Andrew Ryan is spinning in his grave.

ahahahaha
definitely

[AnthonyFontaine]

The only thing that sounds legit is the intro.
Everything else, im not getting my hopes up until i purchase the mag.
There is no point getting mad at false facts.

[Circus of Values]

Everything sounds pretty good/believable, except for, as everyone said, a squid boss? Soviets? No Big Daddies? This is all VERY hard to believe. I will need proof of confirmation before I believe this.

Wait, AND spliced dogs? Might I ask, how the hell are dogs going to get spliced up? They gonna start shooting electrobolts out of their mouths? Highly suspicious...

[blake2t2]

The college aged, avid Halo player. If you've ever watched G4 you'll know what I mean...

Indeed, Saint of Rapture.

i hated halo 2 & 3......

talk about the most un original games...oh idk....ever?!

[AnthonyFontaine]

Dogs dont make sense. DOGS CAN USE EVE HYPOS?

[Raining Light]

corny as in fighting a giant squid?

Yea.
While I thought animals spliced sounds cool Im not sure how it would come off. And dogs? no one had a dog before, I know we didnt go everywhere but we did see living areas.

I would think we would see cats

[Fhtagn]

If the Big Sister turns out to be some Dark Samus-esque character, I'll be pissed. Honestly, I expect more than that rumor suggests.

[Kyburz]

For those that are disappointed, I would offer that there might be some awesome twists that they are purposely not going to ever tell us. Stuff like Andrew Ryan making an apperance half way through the game, your best radio buddy actually being Sander Cohen or something crazy like that. And even if there aren't any crazy twists like that, there could be some interesting stuff that would make the game captivating. Maybe there are a lot of interesting moral choices that the player will make through out the game. Maybe there are optional sidequests to help rebuild Rapture, etc.

Let's not give up all hope just on one article.

Some questions I would have from a storyline perspective are if these new plasmids are ones developed by Suchong and co that Jack just never encountered or if there are still some scientists developing new plasmids down there?

And how have so many splicers survived for seven long years? Has Rapture been restored somewhat? Are there still functional areas of the city? It seemed like a lot of the basic infrastructure to even provide necessities like food/water was in ruins.

[SaintofRapture]

Honestly, Big Daddies were massively iconic in BioShock. They wouldn't just cut them out like that... would they? It would be like Sander Cohen being cut (which 2K had better not have done or turned Sander into some weird steampuck-esque cyborg thing, because THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY IF THAT IS TRUE)

Yet, the whole telepathy thing does sound kind of cool though, but I echo the sentiment of ''what the hell? A squid boss?'

[blake2t2]

Dogs dont make sense. DOGS CAN USE EVE HYPOS?

hahaha---i can imagine it now..... a dog sitting in a nasty bathroom with a rubber hose tied around its front leg and a eve hypo in its mouth gettin ready to shoot up....

[Kyro]

Spliced animals? Giant squids? You're kidding, right?
If this is all true, I'm going to be very very disappointed..

[Scifiguy]

Dogs dont make sense. DOGS CAN USE EVE HYPOS?

They can't, but I can understand. 2K is turning the attention, once again, towards gamers who like Halo. An original storyline doesn't matter as long as you can press Mouse 1 and hold down W. (I have the Comp Version)

[Raining Light]

For those that are disappointed, I would offer that there might be some awesome twists that they are purposely not going to ever tell us. Stuff like Andrew Ryan making an apperance half way through the game, your best radio buddy actually being Sander Cohen or something crazy like that. And even if there aren't any crazy twists like that, there could be some interesting stuff that would make the game captivating. Maybe there are a lot of interesting moral choices that the player will make through out the game. Maybe there are optional sidequests to help rebuild Rapture, etc.

Let's not give up all hope just on one article.

Some questions I would have from a storyline perspective are if these new plasmids are ones developed by Suchong and co that Jack just never encountered or if there are still some scientists developing new plasmids down there?

And how have so many splicers survived for seven long years? Has Rapture been restored somewhat? Are there still functional areas of the city? It seemed like a lot of the basic infrastructure to even provide necessities like food/water was in ruins.

Makes the other story of scientist that locked themselves in and want to repair Rapture more believable, but their were holes in that plot also.
Maybe its these "holes" that will have the twist in them, makling them make sense when we play.

I am a little turned off but I love the whole idea and all and I will reserve my final judgement after playing it

[SaintofRapture]

They can't, but I can understand. 2K is turning the attention, once again, towards gamers who like Halo. An original storyline doesn't matter as long as you can press Mouse 1 and hold down W. (I have the Comp Version)

Nooooo! Please say it isn't so! I don't want HaloShock!