A long but thoughtful article. I tend to agree with the conclusion.
A long but thoughtful article. I tend to agree with the conclusion.
Interesting article Pedal! It's always hard to predict the future, and usually we're more wrong than right when we try, but it does make sense that at some point the life of a country tends to outgrow its traditions, whether political or economic in nature. Our constitution, after a couple hundred years, is in some ways outdated. We update Windows (or kill it, from what I read recently) but how often do we come out with Constitution 2.0 or 3.0? Ha! We rarely even add amendments anymore... In any case, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to reformulate how our government works, or how the branches should interact, or how voting should take place, etc. But that's unlikely to happen without pain and frustration, as it's a natural tendency of people to delay significant change until absolute necessary.
My favorite quote about history is this:
"What history teaches us is that no one learns from history." I don't recall where I read this but it wasn't Georg Hegel's writings, although perhaps he was being referenced.
The meta-observation of this quote is simply correct in every way. It's correct when analyzing individual lives, societies & civilizations. It's correct when analyzing businesses, governments, etc.... Absolutely one of my favorites.
In any case, no civilization has ever lasted timelessly w/o change. It is virtually impossible for any person or society to live outside of its time, to escape its own intrinsic existential myopia if you will. So history inevitably & inescapably repeats. So yes, the USA will not last forever in it's current state. Unfortunately, changes rarely occur in an methodical fashion. Such is the intrinsic nature of temporality & self-indulgence.
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The correspondence itself shows bin Laden continued to be engaged from his hideout and sought to direct operations. Shortly before he was killed in the May 2011 raid, a letter shows him celebrating the Arab Spring revolutions which had toppled Tunisia's leader at that point and were mounting in several other countries.
"These are gigantic events that will eventually engulf most of the Muslim world, will free the Muslim land from American hegemony, and is troubling America whose Secretary of State declared that they are worried about the armed Muslims controlling the Muslim region," bin Laden wrote, according to a translated version.
Bin Laden, writing to a follower identified as Atiyah, called for more Al Qaeda involvement in these countries once their leaders were deposed.
He described the events as "critical to our nation," advising against being "fully occupied with the Afghanistan front." Bin Laden wrote, "we should give our main attention to the Muslim nation's revolution ..." He called for supporting the rebellions and pursuing an "education stage" whenever rulers were deposed, by "mobilizing" writers and technicians to guide those nations.
I remember when the Arab Spring first occurred & some discussion happened here as to what would be the salient effect. I argued along the lines of Bin Laden's writings, i.e.: it won't be good. Others argued: Of course democracy was a genuine possibility. Clearly the data indicates which prediction was/is more accurate. Liberals crack me up with this kind of baseless optimism which contradicts all data & reasonable analysis. All this "people are basically good" nonsense despite the overwhelming data to the contrary. People the world over are intrinsically myopic & self-indulgent. What that looks like varies from culture to culture such as rampant consumerism/narcissism in the West to Bin Laden's writings above in the Middle-East but the source is all the same. Thinking of self & how to propagate that myopic vision. The very term, "Arab Spring", is a hilarious term conjured up by well-meaning but completely misguided optimists w/o a clue of reality & trying to "tiptoe" around the very real ideological divide between the West values normative & the Middle-East values normative. Such a term allows each side to choose their own interpretation & be correct, regardless of how disparate the interpretations are. Simply brilliant! Good old "newspeak" down to a science.
Roads of Rome: I like this game. I haven't played any games in a long time, but went on Games.com recently and downloaded this great time management & strategy game. You basically repair buildings and roads while trying to get the right access at the right time to resources that let you complete your tasks. It's very addictive. The game itself is short, usually less than 10 minutes per level. But it's intense, rapid, and smart.
Changing topics, I'm curious what you think of this:
There are related articles on the page, particularly a rebuttal article, I read them both. I don't know enough experientially to say which is more accurate but I do think mindless & less thoughtful reaction has become more common in our society due to social media. I find it mostly unappealing.
I'll continue reading now...
Well, Pedal, it seems that campus PC-ness has been hitting the news lately. There was the article you brought to our attention, and from what I've heard it's touched a nerve for a lot of people, and now Jerry Seinfeld has commented on how comedians are beginning to avoid campuses because students are too sensitive. Here's one link: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/10/living...colleges-feat/.
A great WSJ article (written by Flynn himself) explaining how we score better on IQ tests than people 100 years ago even though we aren't inherently smarter today... http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100008...06612858486012.
The explanation has to do with formal education, and how today we focus on abstract hypotheticals, whereas in the past real life practical knowledge tended to be tested more. So in the past a student would know all the state capitals, whereas today a student is expected to know why the state capital isn't necessarily the largest city of the state. These are different kinds of knowledge being tested...
How is everyone doing by the way?
I agree with the professor personally. I'm afraid I'm not impressed with the Facebook generation. Seem like a bunch of babies/whiners who can't hold their milk. Milk-drinkers as the Nords in Skyrim put it.
Haven't been on this thread in a long while. Started playing deus ex since it was the free game and I really enjoy it except for the couple of bugs. Funny enough it reminded me of you pedal as you talked about that game somewhere in this thread a couple years or so ago. Hope everyone is doing well
Random thought don't mind me I feel life is simply tolerated because that's what we're supposed to do. There is no difference between non existence and death. They're one and the same. This thing we call life is about as brief as anything in the universe, and what is gained from it? Is this the universe's attempt to achieve transcendence so it can experience itself and exist? Without anything to define existence nothing can exist, so life is necessary for the universe to exist by logical deduction. We give life to the universe just as the universe gives life to us. 😱 All this pain and the chaos of life is no different from the rest of the universe, the universe is chaotic and violent and so is life! This is necessary, the sooner you accept it the better you'll feel. Pain is all but guaranteed in life and that's ok 😊
"Vanity of vanities, all is vanity." -- Eccl 1:2 (excerpt)
Denied, if you haven't read it already, I'm guessing you might enjoy Ecclesiastes. It's highly philosophical & residual in its analysis. It's also short (12 chapters). You could probably read it in 30 minutes easy.
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someone didn't like our comments eh?
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